Nice laugh, but 'Cue' it at the Right Time
Here's an article that has been passed around the Tar Heel nation today...
Check out Gregg Doyel's CBS Sportsline article here.
My opinion is that Gregg Doyel is a "quack"...His basketball articles are below average, and I often wonder if he's ever worn a pair of game shorts.
With this article, Dick Baddour is an easy target to pelt right now. And if you do go after him right now, it's not like you're throwing a beanball at Albert Pujols. It's a softball move...
In this article, Doyel's supporting points are that Baddour bungled the opportunity to interview NFL coordinators, Marvin Lewis or Herm Edwards, at the time of the 2000 hiring of John Bunting.
Yet, people need to realize that the reason why Marvin Lewis was neither hired by the NFL nor an major D-1 program as a head coach stemmed from his behavior off-the-filed. That was the reason he was never hired by anyone to be a head.
I chuckle a lot when I hear the minority card implicated by writers and announcers as to why Lewis wasn't hired. Those critics forget that the undertow in the NFL was that Lewis wasn't hired not because of ability or race, but due to the fact that NFL execs were scared stiff by his potential to live up the high life in Green Bay. I wouldn't be surprised if Baddour knew Lewis's hidden escapades in Green Bay as well.
Now after thinking about someone coming from an NFL staff down to the college ranks, I don't think that people realize how big of a difference between the two levels exists. There are a lot of adjustments to make. Especially, with dealing with recruits and the pressure of boosters who have no idea about how tough establishing a culture is at a program. For every Dave Wannstedt, Bill Callahan, and Chan Gailey, there's Ron Zook, John Bunting, or Al Groh.
For the same amount of reasons that I can see why an NFL coordinator or former head coach can work as a hire, I can also see why an NFL hire doesn't work. I'm on the NFL tip big-time when it comes to a hire, but when people point to cases such as Pete Carroll and Charlie Weis, you have to peer at the few easy reasons of why those hires worked.
For Pete Carroll's case:
A.) From NorCal and understands the USC culture in the state of California. He also sells USC Football, which is very similar to selling UNC or Duke Basketball.
B.) He has a tremendous knack and financial support for recruiting coaches to join his staff. Examples; Norm Chow, Ken Norton Jr.
C.) 'Open' support and "looser" admission requirements to reconstruct the program.
C.) Loves to recruit
For Charlie Weis:
A.) ND Alum, passion for the school, selling Notre Dame, knows his 'O.'
B.) He built a tremendous staff.
C.) "Open" is not even a word to describe the amount of support through facilities and staff funding that ND has given him to resurrect the program.
D.) He loves to recruit.
Does a marriage between UNC and an NFL coordinator like Marvin Lewis or Herman Edwards fit that mold?...Nah. And do NFL or NBA assistants realize how challenging recruiting is without a passion for it? NO.
So, Doyel needs to get off supposed slip-ups of not hiring Lewis or Edwards.
Also, you have to remember the board and the donors have to like the guy as well. With John Bunting as a UNC alum, everyone thought Bunting would be a better hire over Mark Richt because of Bunting's NFL experience and his passion for the alma mater. I'll give Baddour the benefit of the doubt on that one.
As for the call backs, that's a different story...I find it embarrassing that someone in Baddour's position would not reach out to the NFL coaches that were applying for the job, regardless if they're a viable candidate or not.
Especially, when you consider the amount of kids, who by the end of careers are fighting like hell for free-agent slots in NFL camps...You never know when that failed call back hits a kid when he's trying out in the Chiefs camp as a special teams guy...Catch my drift...Now I know it's a small chance, but I can't tell you how many times that I've heard or read stories that players have stuck on a roster because they were a 'Carolina guy.'
Valid points with Doyel's roundhouses...Yet, I'm keeping my faith in Neinas and Baddour.
As for my opinion of the man in the hot seat. I'm right in the middle of the road. The match is tied. This coaching hire is game, set, and match for his legacy. Personally, I don't think he'll mess this one up with Neinas around.
Waiting Patiently,
IronDog
(Note 1: Another example to add to those NFL examples in the future may be that dream of Steve Mariucci and MSU. After watching how well of a fit that he was at Cal years ago, hmmm....Very tasty. Then again, you only have to turn to Al Groh.)
(Note 2: I drafted Rasheed in the fifth round of my 10 team NBA fantasy draft because I think he'll get double eligibility this season and he'll shoot more threes in a more uptempo system...He gets tossed in the first game. Comes back for 18 pts, 2 threes, and 9 boards tonight. I still love the guy.)
Check out Gregg Doyel's CBS Sportsline article here.
My opinion is that Gregg Doyel is a "quack"...His basketball articles are below average, and I often wonder if he's ever worn a pair of game shorts.
With this article, Dick Baddour is an easy target to pelt right now. And if you do go after him right now, it's not like you're throwing a beanball at Albert Pujols. It's a softball move...
In this article, Doyel's supporting points are that Baddour bungled the opportunity to interview NFL coordinators, Marvin Lewis or Herm Edwards, at the time of the 2000 hiring of John Bunting.
Yet, people need to realize that the reason why Marvin Lewis was neither hired by the NFL nor an major D-1 program as a head coach stemmed from his behavior off-the-filed. That was the reason he was never hired by anyone to be a head.
I chuckle a lot when I hear the minority card implicated by writers and announcers as to why Lewis wasn't hired. Those critics forget that the undertow in the NFL was that Lewis wasn't hired not because of ability or race, but due to the fact that NFL execs were scared stiff by his potential to live up the high life in Green Bay. I wouldn't be surprised if Baddour knew Lewis's hidden escapades in Green Bay as well.
Now after thinking about someone coming from an NFL staff down to the college ranks, I don't think that people realize how big of a difference between the two levels exists. There are a lot of adjustments to make. Especially, with dealing with recruits and the pressure of boosters who have no idea about how tough establishing a culture is at a program. For every Dave Wannstedt, Bill Callahan, and Chan Gailey, there's Ron Zook, John Bunting, or Al Groh.
For the same amount of reasons that I can see why an NFL coordinator or former head coach can work as a hire, I can also see why an NFL hire doesn't work. I'm on the NFL tip big-time when it comes to a hire, but when people point to cases such as Pete Carroll and Charlie Weis, you have to peer at the few easy reasons of why those hires worked.
For Pete Carroll's case:
A.) From NorCal and understands the USC culture in the state of California. He also sells USC Football, which is very similar to selling UNC or Duke Basketball.
B.) He has a tremendous knack and financial support for recruiting coaches to join his staff. Examples; Norm Chow, Ken Norton Jr.
C.) 'Open' support and "looser" admission requirements to reconstruct the program.
C.) Loves to recruit
For Charlie Weis:
A.) ND Alum, passion for the school, selling Notre Dame, knows his 'O.'
B.) He built a tremendous staff.
C.) "Open" is not even a word to describe the amount of support through facilities and staff funding that ND has given him to resurrect the program.
D.) He loves to recruit.
Does a marriage between UNC and an NFL coordinator like Marvin Lewis or Herman Edwards fit that mold?...Nah. And do NFL or NBA assistants realize how challenging recruiting is without a passion for it? NO.
So, Doyel needs to get off supposed slip-ups of not hiring Lewis or Edwards.
Also, you have to remember the board and the donors have to like the guy as well. With John Bunting as a UNC alum, everyone thought Bunting would be a better hire over Mark Richt because of Bunting's NFL experience and his passion for the alma mater. I'll give Baddour the benefit of the doubt on that one.
As for the call backs, that's a different story...I find it embarrassing that someone in Baddour's position would not reach out to the NFL coaches that were applying for the job, regardless if they're a viable candidate or not.
Especially, when you consider the amount of kids, who by the end of careers are fighting like hell for free-agent slots in NFL camps...You never know when that failed call back hits a kid when he's trying out in the Chiefs camp as a special teams guy...Catch my drift...Now I know it's a small chance, but I can't tell you how many times that I've heard or read stories that players have stuck on a roster because they were a 'Carolina guy.'
Valid points with Doyel's roundhouses...Yet, I'm keeping my faith in Neinas and Baddour.
As for my opinion of the man in the hot seat. I'm right in the middle of the road. The match is tied. This coaching hire is game, set, and match for his legacy. Personally, I don't think he'll mess this one up with Neinas around.
Waiting Patiently,
IronDog
(Note 1: Another example to add to those NFL examples in the future may be that dream of Steve Mariucci and MSU. After watching how well of a fit that he was at Cal years ago, hmmm....Very tasty. Then again, you only have to turn to Al Groh.)
(Note 2: I drafted Rasheed in the fifth round of my 10 team NBA fantasy draft because I think he'll get double eligibility this season and he'll shoot more threes in a more uptempo system...He gets tossed in the first game. Comes back for 18 pts, 2 threes, and 9 boards tonight. I still love the guy.)
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